Honda Civic AC not working, claims car owners

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Honda Civic air conditioner compressors and condensers fail due to R-1234yf refrigerant leaks.

– If your Honda Civic AC fails, two lawsuits have been consolidated into a class action related to Honda Civic 2016-2020 (2 and 4 doors), Honda Civic 2017-2021 (sedan) and Civic Type 2017-2021 auto R .

Eleven Honda Civic owners have filed a lawsuit claiming that their air conditioners have stopped working due to cracks and leaking refrigerant which caused a loss of pressure within the AC systems.

The Civic AC Consolidated Class Action includes plaintiffs in two related actions: Wong v. American Honda, And Munoz v. American Honda.

A separate case, Elkins v. American Honda, had already been rejected by the same judge now seised in the consolidated class action case.

The new class action includes these 11 plaintiffs who claim their Honda Civic AC systems have stopped working.

  • Andre Wong / California / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Amado Munoz / California / 2017 Honda Civic

  • Frank Costbile / Pennsylvania / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Rachel Fairchild / Florida / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Carolyn Heier / Virginia / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Ben Hu / California / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Matthew Robinson / Florida / 2016 Honda Civic LX

  • Michael Schwartz / Oregon / 2017 Honda Civic

  • Gary Tetrault / Connecticut / 2016 Honda Civic

  • James Tillery / Virginia / 2016 Honda Civic

  • Lingyang Yin / Washington / 2016 Honda Civic

Honda Civic customers who claim their air conditioner has stopped working say Honda is aware of the problems but will not call the cars back to fix them properly.

The collective action also argues that Civics use R-1234yf refrigerant which is supposed to be more environmentally friendly than R-134a refrigerant. However, Honda’s collective action claims the air conditioning stops working because the system is unable to handle R-1234yf refrigerant, causing the air conditioning to shut down to cool the Civic’s cabin.

Leaks in condensers or compressors cause air conditioning problems, but plaintiffs argue that evaporators and exhaust and intake lines can also fail.

Additionally, the lawsuit argues that dealers often claim that the AC has stopped working due to impacts with road debris, and at times, dealers tell Civic owners that no leaks can be found.

Honda Civic CA faults under warranty

If a Honda Civic owner visits a dealership to fix the AC that has stopped working, those owners will be charged diagnostic fees even when the cars are covered under warranty.

Honda Civic owners allegedly pay $ 150 to $ 2,000 to repair AC systems when they stop working, and the repairs are also supposedly unnecessary because Honda uses the same faulty parts as replacements.

“Whether Honda provides warranty coverage for a failed component or claims to have permanently repaired the AC system, its repair efforts typically prove ineffective – other AC system components invariably fail outside of the warranty period, forcing Class members into an endless and costly whack-a-mole game involving a vehicle they’ve already paid tens of thousands of dollars for. ” – Cause of collective action Honda Civic AC

Air conditioning replacement parts are assumed to be overdue because so many Civic cooling systems have defects that cause the systems to fail. Civic owners should have to forgo air conditioning or purchase aftermarket components at their own expense.

So Honda’s warranties allegedly state that using aftermarket parts to repair AC systems will preclude Honda Civic customers from participating in any recall campaigns.

According to the consolidated class action:

“Honda did not disclose any of the potential failure modes of the defect to potential customers until three months after filing the original claim in Elkins v. Honda when they issued TSB 19-091, extending the AC capacitor warranty to only 10 years from the original purchase date on Honda Civic vehicles from model year 2016-2018. “- Honda Civic AC-class action

The TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) says: “[t]The A / C condenser was not manufactured to specification. As a result, small holes can develop in the condenser tube walls which allow refrigerant to escape. “

Plaintiffs say Honda used the TSB as the primary reason why the Elkins case had to be filed, and it has been filed. But the current lawsuit argues that Honda’s extended warranty and free repairs did not include all affected vehicles.

“Honda also concealed that the problem was not limited to the AC condenser as it had represented in TSB 19-091 and this Court, but rather that the AC compressors were also failing in record numbers. Honda at least was aware of this before December 20, 2019. , when he first informed his US dealers that he had learned of “an unprecedented demand for A / C compressors which, at times, created a backorder situation”. “- Case Honda Civic AC

Honda subsequently issued TSB 21-014 to include more vehicles, but the lawsuit claims the bulletin fails to adequately address the air conditioning problems.

The Honda Civic AC case was filed in the United States District Court for the Central District of California: Wong, et al., V. American Honda Motor Co., Inc., and others.

Plaintiffs are represented by McCune Wright Arevalo LLP, Milberg Coleman Bryson Phillips Grossman PLLC, Bradley / Grombacher LLP, Cafferty Clobes Meriwether & Sprengel LLP and Berger Montague PC.

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