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Interview with Giuliani obsessed with the Tucker Carlson conspiracy: not for the faint-hearted | Rudy giuliani

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Rudy Giuliani guilty? That’s what they want you to think! And who are they they? Hunter Biden’s sinister clique, Project Lincoln, and the Department of Injustice, of course.

That would have been the impression of Fox News viewers Thursday night when Giuliani gave his first television interview since federal agents seized mobile phones and computers from his New York apartment as part of an investigation into his dubious dealings with Ukraine. .

Hosted by Tucker Carlson, whose sympathy for the “great replacement” theory of white supremacy and his insistence that making children wear masks is “child abuse” has made him the true heir to Donald Trump as king. right-wing conspiracy theory.

A Carlson and Giuliani split screen wasn’t for the faint-hearted. The former kept his expression conspicuous, brows furrowed, mouth open long enough to catch a fly. Giuliani, in a suit and tie, with a white handkerchief in his top pocket, was in his office, with a bald eagle model and books, including his, on display. With a ring on her little finger, she nervously played with her glasses.

What the former New York mayor said that became a legal hatchet for Trump didn’t make a lot of sense, but it left viewers with the idea that somehow it was all Hunter’s fault, so in that sense it was a huge success. Such was the fixation that at one point Giuliani even said “Hunter” instead of “Tucker” by mistake.

First, Carlson tried to convince Giuliani to tell him a poignant and poignant account about the assault on his home at dawn. The former mayor, who on September 11 moved everyone with his lament “the number of casualties will be more than any of us can bear”, is less limpid these days.

“Well, around six in the morning, there was a huge explosion! outbreak! outbreak! at the door and outside there were seven FBI agents with a warrant for electronic devices, ”he recalled. “And I looked at the order and said it was extraordinary because I offered to give it to the government and talk about it with them for two years.

“I don’t know why they have to do this. The agents seemed somewhat apologetic. They were very, very professional and very gentlemanly. “

FBI agents had taken seven or eight electronic devices, he continued, but they weren’t interested in hard drives that Giuliani said contain evidence of Hunter’s wrongdoing. He offered them over and over again, but they still refused. Could it be that they don’t spend their days watching Fox or diving down the rabbit holes of right-wing blogs?

Giuliani led an effort to dig up the dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter in Ukraine ahead of last year’s election. Prosecutors are investigating whether he illegally lobbied the Trump administration on behalf of Ukrainian officials and oligarchs while also serving as Trump’s personal attorney.

Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson. Photographer: Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images

Ingeniously, Carlson and Giuliani made up the argument that Hunter’s position on the board of a Ukrainian gas company and his fight against drug addiction were equally worthy of a dawn raid. “We have a photo of him five days earlier, smoking a crack pipe behind the wheel of a car and then claiming under oath that he is not an addict.

“And it is the left that cares about the weapons that mentally unstable people have. Well I was unstable, unfortunately and tragically sorry for that part of Hunter Biden. I think his father exploited him, but the reality is that he is still a danger to the public driving a car or holding a gun, but they don’t care. “

Returning to his own case, Giuliani said that FBI agents had knocked on his door “in a terrifying way,” but “I don’t get scared very easily.” He added: “It is an illegal, unconstitutional order, one of many that this Department of Injustice has tragically made.”

The search warrant, he said, “was allegedly based on a single fact that I did not appear to represent a Ukrainian national or official that I never represented.”

Carlson scornfully suggested that the Lincoln Project, a group of Republican anti-Trump consultants, knew about the raid beforehand, but noted that Biden says no. Giuliani scored more points from Fox mocking the president’s age: “He may not remember. I’m not sure I can hold onto something for longer than the time it takes to read it. “

And so he went on, deflated the campaign slogans for an election that was lost six months ago when Giuliani ended up at Four Seasons Total Landscaping outside of Philadelphia. “Thirty years of the Biden crime family violating our laws. That’s what is on the hard drive that they have censored and that’s why they want to put me in jail. “

Giuliani claimed that his iCloud account had been snooped in the middle of his attempt to defend Trump against impeachment (a first for those who are counting). Indicate a rapid escalation to Stasi comparisons.

“The Justice Department prosecutors spied on me and they don’t take that seriously. If that doesn’t result in them being sanctioned, the case dismissed and stopped, this is no longer a free country. We might as well be in East Berlin before the wall came down. This is a tactic that is only known in a dictatorship, in which the records of a lawyer are confiscated right in the middle of representing his client. “

After 10 minutes that felt like 10 years, the interview was conducted, not likely to join the annals of David Frost and Richard Nixon. Still, it was manna from heaven for a certain viewer at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. For these guys, he’s still the one that counts.

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