Velshi gets angry at State GA Sec. Who condemns Stacey Abrams

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On his Saturday program on MSNBC, Ali Velshi was utterly confused by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s claim that Stacey Abrams’ stolen election conspiracy theories were no different from Donald Trump’s. After all, voter suppression, unlike fraud, was a legitimate concern.

Raffensperger was promoting his new book and after talking about Trump and 2020, Velshi wondered why he wasn’t a huge Abrams fan. Velshi thought the two must be on the same team:

In this current struggle, the struggle for integrity for the election. The struggle for democracy. The struggle in which all those who have the right to vote constitutionally should vote without hindrance. It strikes me that you and Stacey Abrams are on the same side. Are you no more aligned with her in this fight than you are, for example, for a long time, than many Republicans who are not supporting you right now, including the former president’s clown machine?

Raffensperger completely rejects Velshi’s rotation. “No, not at all. If you really look at what Stacey Abrams did, she lost the state of Georgia in 2018 by 55,000 votes. She questioned the legitimacy of our elections,” he recalled. “He actually then set the table, along with other leaders, Democratic national leaders who supported Stacey Abrams in her big lie and set the table for President Trump, then just to step it up and take it to the next level.”

After Raffensperger urged both sides to fight hard to win the election, but lose with honor, an incredulous Velshi asked: “It is not possible to draw a parallel between Stacey Abrams who claims that there have been suppressed voters and Donald Trump who he states that you need to find votes that weren’t in his favor. Those can’t be, you can’t, those can’t be equivalences for you. “

Raffensperger once again had to provide Velshi with some basic facts, “but there was no suppression of voters. In his run, we had 4 million people who turned up for the governor’s race. That’s almost a million. more than before. We had record numbers of people signed up, record turnout, there was no suppression of voters. So, it was all made up. “

Velshi tripled, stating, “There is a distinction between lying about election fraud and discussing whether states like Georgia, states like Texas and others make it difficult for people who have the constitutional right to vote to vote, right?”

Once again, Raffensperger had to correct the record and citing early voting and postal voting showed how easy it is to vote in Georgia. Not that Velshi cared about the facts. “Don’t you think you can do things in Georgia to improve people’s access to voting? That you can make it a better voting system,” Velshi insisted.

Forced to repeat himself, Raffensperger replied “We already”, to which the never satisfied Velshi interrupted “But can you do more?”

Raffensperger concluded the segment by promoting changes made by Georgia, such as the elimination of subjective signature verification with objective driver’s license numbers and shorter Election Day lines.

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Here is a transcript for the November 6th show:

MSNBC Velshi
November 6, 2021
8:09 am ET

ALI VELSHI: You recently targeted Stacey Abrams and I almost wonder because I know you have different political parties, but in this current fight, the fight for integrity for the election. The struggle for democracy. The struggle in which all those who have the right to vote constitutionally should vote without hindrance. It strikes me that you and Stacey Abrams are on the same side. Are you no more aligned with her in this fight than you are, for example, for a long time, than many Republicans who are not supporting you right now, including the former president’s clown machine?

BRAD RAFFENSPERGER: No, not at all. If you really look at what Stacey Abrams did, she lost the state of Georgia in 2018 by 55,000 votes. He questioned the legitimacy of our elections. He actually then set the table, along with other leaders, Democratic national leaders who supported Stacey Abrams in her big lie and set the table for President Trump, then just to step it up and take it to the next level.

Suppression of voters and electoral fraud. They are both sides of the coin, different sides, but stolen election declarations undermine people’s confidence in the elections. So, both sides are really something they need to look internally at what they have done left and right and say we won’t do it again. We will fight, we will fight hard to win the election, but when we lose, we will lose honorably.

VELSHI: Yes, I totally agree, I agree with the latter conclusion, but you cannot draw a parallel between Stacey Abrams who says that there have been suppressed voters and Donald Trump who says that you have to find votes that have not been expressed in his favor. Those can’t be, you can’t, those can’t be equivalences for you.

RAFFENSPERGER: It undermined, but there was no suppression of voters. In his run, we had 4 million people showing up for the governor’s race. That’s almost a million more than it has ever appeared before. We have had a record number of people registered, a record turnout, there has been no suppression of voters. So, it was all made up and it’s just like election fraud, we prove President Trump didn’t win the state of Georgia. It’s not healthy for American democracy and they both need to stop and people need to win their races on their own merits.

VELSHI: Again, I agree with your last point, but there is a distinction between lying about election fraud and discussing whether states like Georgia, states like Texas and others make it difficult for people who have the vote to vote. constitutional right to vote, right? The bottom line is that the Constitution and its amendments say who can vote in America and every person should have an easy vote, right? So, long formations, rules that discourage people from voting. Shorter advanced polls, harder ways to vote, which is Stacey Abrams’ complaint. This is valid. Making it easy for everyone to vote is good.

RAFFENSPERGER: And none of this happened in Georgia. We actually have 17 days of early voting, two days on Sunday for any county that wants it. We have no excuse for the postal ballot, which we have been in place since 2005. We have record registrations and last year we had 5 million people standing for the presidential vote.

VELSHI: Don’t you think you can do things in Georgia to improve people’s access to the vote? What can you make it a better voting system?

RAFFENSPERGER: We already have. We already have.

VELSHI: But can you do more?

RAFFENSPERGER: We have moved away from the signature match. We have already moved away from the signature correspondence in the absentee vote and moved on to the driver’s license number with photo ID. That’s what they’ve been using in Minnesota for ten years. It is a very objective criterion. So, we can then extract some of those subjective criteria and insert objective criteria and help restore voter confidence. This is a good thing. We have increased the number of days of early voting. And last November, our lines were under an hour across all districts in the afternoon of Election Day. So, the counties did a great job working on those long lines we had previously.

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